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Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
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Usually the mainstream media sides with the Tories, but on this occasion the media is divided and supports both the remain and leave campaigns. As a result the claims from both camps are being…Continue

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Started this discussion. Last reply by Daniel Buckley Jul 2, 2016.

 

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Daniel Buckley replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"    You have made some cogent points David. I agree that the MSM have been out of line in their reporting on Brexit and have tried to influence people by their Project fear. To their astonishment it has not worked this time. The MSM…"
Jul 2, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"Apologies for retaliating, I'm on a yellow card. I think that getting nearly 4 million votes made UKIP a threat to the Tories. Sure, not all of those votes were otherwise destined for Tory candidates, plenty of Labour and LibDem voters may have…"
Jul 2, 2016
Peter Martin replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"Ouch! This is starting to get nasty and personal. David, we don't need the dust to settle to be aware that UKIP was gaining ground but with only one MP and its political leader unable to get elected, it was hardly a threat to the Conservative…"
Jul 2, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"I didn't say that Gordon Brown was a mentor, I just said that during my 40 years I met and learned from lots of people and gave 2 examples out of the thousands. Don't assume, keep up or shut up."
Jul 1, 2016
Daniel Buckley replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
" @Peter.  Manny Shinwell is before my time ,so I cannot make a judgements as to his political heritage. However Gordon Brown I regret to say has been a disaster as a politician ,as a Chancellor and a Prime Minister. He bequeathed us the…"
Jun 30, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"Apologies for insulting those who voted for Brexit, I deduce that you may be a Brexiteer yourself. I note that you end by insulting people who might know a bit more about history than the majority of people and who take a keen interest in how and…"
Jun 30, 2016
Daniel Buckley replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
" @David von Geyer  You have insulted the 17,400,000 British citizens who have voted Leave by implying they did not know the facts and some are racists . The facts are staring us in the face for near 40 years of neo-liberalism supported by…"
Jun 30, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"When enough time has passed for people to look back on this debacle dispassionately, we'll recognise that it was short-term political expediency that led to Cameron putting a Brexit referendum into the 2015 Tory manifesto ie he feared losing…"
Jun 30, 2016
Daniel Buckley replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
" Peter,  You are having problems with your maths regarding referendums. The overall votes are counted ,not individual areas. The Leave vote was approx 17,400,00. The Remain was about 16,700,000 a difference of about 4%. So Leave won by…"
Jun 29, 2016
Peter Martin replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"Dear Joe, Not too many I hope and judging by the result! As Scotland. Northern Ireland and Gibralta all voted in and now seem to want to negotiate their own deals, / go their own way, if we take their votes from the official referendum figures then…"
Jun 29, 2016
joe taylor replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"David - do you know how many people spoiled their ballot paper?"
Jun 29, 2016
Daniel Buckley replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
" 'i am a citizen of the world and all mankind are my brothers' -Tom Paine. I am voting Brexit not for petty John Bull nationalistic reasons but in the interests of my fellow Europeans and the rest of the world."
Jun 19, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"While there are plenty of asylum seekers, legal and illegal immigrants, you've got more in common with them than you have with Cameron, Murdoch, Boris, Philip Green et al. While you're voting Brexit to stem the flow, urged to do so by…"
Jun 19, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"Interesting to see so many comments being made, but disappointing that everyone seems to be making in/out decisions based on the crap being pumped out by the factions. As I live in Sotland, I observed the same campaign as this one 2 years ago,…"
Jun 19, 2016
Daniel Buckley replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"  To associate the death of Jo Cox by a mentally unstable person with the EU referendum,is politicising of a very low level   Supporting this WRECK THE REFERENDUM  nonsense,is non-participation in the biggest democratic decision of…"
Jun 19, 2016
David von Geyer replied to David von Geyer's discussion Logic and the Brexit referendum - the 3rd option
"I'm sorry that you don't have the heart to continue the discussion and I don't intend to be uncivil, we all know that to change the system will require a mass civil protest at the very least. Next Thursday there's a great…"
Jun 19, 2016

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